Narcissism Victim Syndrome, A New Diagnosis?

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Do you see a preponderance of middle aged women in your practices with no particular physical disease process, yet a variety of physical and/or emotional complaints, including: insomnia, weight loss or gain, depression, anxiety, phobias, broken bones, lacerations, or bruises? Some may report an overwhelming feeling of emptiness or doom. Others may talk about or attempt suicide.

These patients are frequently rather nervous, with a guilt-ridden, anxious look and effect. They may appear restless, worried, and/or demonstrate a fake laugh that seems to hide something else.

In extreme cases they may describe sudden outbursts of rage with accompanying violence. They may have even been arrested for assault on their spouse. A few of them are men.

Who are these patients and how did they get this way? While there may be many situations with similar symptoms, it is important to recognize these may be "Victims of Narcissists" and they need your help. While narcissism itself has been a diagnosis in the DSM - IV, psychiatry's complete reference, little to nothing has been written in the medical literature surrounding those who live with the narcissist - and the torturous lives they live. And there are many of them out there.

Narcissism is a broad spectrum of behaviors. On a scale of 1 - 10, Healthy Narcissism is a one, and Pathological Narcissism, or Narcissistic Personality Disorder, (NPD) is a 10.

Healthy Narcissism is something we all can use. It's having a healthy self-esteem. It's what makes us pick ourselves up after experiencing failure and going on towards the next goal. It's what gives us the ability to help each other, and to love someone - as we already know how to love ourselves.

Yet, Pathological Narcissism is an ironic twist of this healthy state. Outwardly, it appears that these people love themselves too much - to the exclusion of anyone else. It is as if they are God himself and those around them must recognize their omnipotence, supreme knowledge, and absolute entitlement and power. Rules don't apply to them. They have an unrealistic and overblown sense of self, often without the credentials to match, as well as fantasies of unlimited power, success, and/or brilliance. They are interpersonally exploitive and have absolutely no understanding of empathy or compassion.

They are neither kind nor benevolent gods. And those who live with them end up paying the price.

While there is a range of narcissistic behaviors lying between level 1 and 10 on this scale, one doesn't need to have full-blown NPD to do incredible damage to those in the inner circle.

While victims of Narcissists are generally codependents, most have no idea how they got in this situation, because in the early stages of the relationship the Narcissistic person can be the most charming, Academy Award winning actor or actress (according to the DSM-IV, 50-75% of narcissists are men), of the century.

The early days of the dating is fast, furious, and vastly romantic. Oftentimes marriage proposals come within a few weeks. The "victim" sees the narcissist as the "Perfect Partner". She's never met someone so wonderful in her lifetime and falls head-over-heels in love. The two go on to live happily ever after - or so she thinks - until the "real" partner surfaces. The once wonderful Dr. Jekyll turns into the dangerous Mr. Hyde who quickly instills fear, anxiety, uncertainty, and total confusion to the relationship.

The change can be quick and powerful or slow and insidious.

We are all way too familiar with overt narcissists: those abusive husbands who send thousands of battered women to the emergency room each year. They feel it is their God-given right to beat, abuse, and otherwise threat their partner in whatever method they deem necessary and no one can tell them otherwise.

Then there is the verbally abusive and controlling narcissist - the one who uses emotional abuse as his weapon of choice. He tells his victim who she can see, what time she needs to be home, and when she can go to bed. Or in the case of Jamie, whose husband makes her recite every day, "I'm only worth 29 cents - the price of a bullet," he erodes her self-worth to nothing to keep her under his control.

Who else could possible want such a worthless woman as she? With that belief, she will never leave him for good, although she makes many brief attempts to do so. She always returns. The brainwashing that continues day after day is emotionally exhausting, draining, and vastly unhealthy.

Yet almost worse is the "Stealth Narcissist," so sinister and silent in his ability to drive his partner crazy that she doesn't suspect anything bad is happening until it's too late. He is the master of the little digs - "Honey, why on earth would you cook eggs in butter? NO ONE does it that way. What's wrong with you?" Or, "If you'd only do what I say then we'd both be happy."

He issues the "silent treatment" when he is slighted, punishing his family by ignoring them for hours, leaving them wondering what they did "wrong" to make him act this way. He may "forget" birthday or Christmas presents, year after year. He may show up hours late and his partner is just supposed to understand, with no explanation even offered. He may have another woman on the side and feel quite entitled to do so.

Yet, to those outside his inner kingdom he looks like a saint. He probably is president of the Rotary, volunteers at a food bank, and contributes regularly to charity - all to attain the image of being the admired Superman of his community.

No matter which type of narcissist he is, the end result is the same - a slow, insidious, breaking down of the self-esteem of his victims until there's next to nothing left, at which point, the narcissist will frequently throw his partner out in order to look for someone new and full of life to make his next target. Leaving his victim an emotional wreck wondering what she did to destroy their once "perfect" relationship.

The Narcissist himself rarely changes. After all, if you believe you're God-like, you must be perfect. Why should you change your behavior for anyone else? Yet the biggest secret is that deep inside, he loathes himself, and is desperate that no one find out who the "real" person is inside his tough, outer shell.

Victims are not only spouses. They can be coworkers, employees, children, or friends of narcissists. When the narcissist is the victim's mother, it's a difficult spot to be in, as most children (even grown children) find it almost impossible to leave the relationship. And the abuse continues for years.

However, when the narcissist is your patient's boss, coworker, or friend, it may be wise to counsel the victim to seek a new situation elsewhere to best avoid an emotional roller coaster ride that could lead to extreme health issues down the road.

How can you help those with Narcissism Victim Syndrome? First, by asking questions to determine what is going on in their environment. Health care professionals already know the effect that stress has on so many of us, but the added stress of living with a narcissist is rarely understood or recognized by the victims themselves. Knowledge is power and by asking the right questions about their situation, you might be able to help them begin to better recognize their problem and seek help.

You can help them quit being victims, quit blaming themselves for all that's wrong in their relationships, gain knowledge of this disorder, and regain their personal power. Help them to seek counseling from a therapist knowledgeable about narcissism, (not all are, and few fully understand victim issues at all), in order to rebuild their shattered self-esteem and stop looking and acting like a caged animal.

Help them find hope, before years of stuffing their anger due to this abusive treatment, leads them to venting in unhealthy ways, sometimes leading to domestic violence and police intervention. Help them to stop looking like the sick one in the relationship and to start down the road of being a survivor and no longer a victim. Help them escape symptoms of depression that may, in some cases, lead to suicide.

Learn all you can about the "Narcissism Victim Syndrome". You might light a glimmer of hope for someone who's just barely hanging on for dear life.

Written by Mary Jo Fay, RN, MSN, a national speaker, author, columnist and survivor of several narcissistic relationships. Her new book, "When Your Perfect Partner Goes Perfectly Wrong - Loving or Leaving the Narcissist in Your Life" is available at http://www.helpfromsurvivors.com
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Narcissism - Life damaging

posted by Susan on 12 May 2012 at 11:47 am

Have been suffering for over 23 yrs now do to marrying a N. We dated for a year and a half. He had charmed my parents and 4 siblings into thinking he was the perfect man for me. We got engaged and after 6 weeks I began to see a change in him. He was not being as kind and I saw signs of anger/brooding. I told him I was having reservations about us marrying. He then quickly changed his ways and returned to his previous demeanor. Although we had always used protection during intercourse on evening he chose not to and I got pregnant. Looking back he did this on purpose to ensure I would not get away. We stayed together 12 yrs. and foolishly I had two more children with this man. Please understand I love my children dearly. I just feel such guilt that I could not protect them from him, and now they are all very mixed up when it comes to forming close relationships. We have been divorced 7 yrs now, and he still torments me usually by doing something unkind to the children. When we divorced he said he was going to bury me in the ground penniless. Since he was able to turn my siblings and best friend against me I feel it is a reality. His constant abuse left me with a syndrome called Fibromyalgia. He basically destroyed my central nervous system. If you saw me on the street you would never know, because I hide behind a fake smile. When I am alone I feel worthless. Just want the mental and physical pain to stop. Wish years ago there were ways like this to get information we need to make life long decisions. Just happy I have found this site beginning to understand it was not my fault.

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Behind closed doors he is a monster...

posted by Stella on 18 Apr 2012 at 7:12 pm

I got married very young and spent 25 years with a narcissist. For years, I had so many, what I call "hmm" moments - meaning something was just not right. He would often cancel vacations last minute (literally as we would leave for the airport) for reasons that he would blame on me. Yet, he never canceled a business trip.

He forgot anniversaries, birthdays, never came home on time for dinner. He took my name off of the checkbook claiming I was irresponsible with money and I was not.

He was addicted to sports and spent most of his times at football games, basketball games, and baseball games, so much so that he spent our children's birthdays at these events and not at their parties.

One day the children and I came home to find him gone. He packed an moved out, took all the money, had borrowed off of our home (without my knowledge). That was almost two years ago. He has never apologized to the kids or me. In fact, he blames us!!!

I divorced him, but lost so much financially because he hid so much. He did not want the children and does not have custody or visitation. Yet, he claims he wants to see his kids and that I keep them from him.

I learned that for five years he was complaining about the children and me to his lawyer brother, with whom he never had a relationship with but did so to get him to help him dismantle our lives. His best friend, with whom I was also friends with along with his wife, fixed him up with his sister-in-law. My ex travels with her all over the world and showers her daughter with gifts. Her daughter is ten and has issues. Our children are straight A students and are talented, kind and lovely. He refuses anything for our children.

To the world he is the best since sliced bread. Behind closed doors he is a monster. How do we expose these guys?

Stella

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My EX-Fiance is Narcissistic

posted by Tammy on 10 Apr 2012 at 6:58 pm

I have no regrets in regards to breaking up with my fiancé. There was so many red flags with him being a narcissistic. I even had to see a Dr for panic attacks and had explained my relationship. He never met him but he knew that he had NDP by my explanation on when I would have these attacks. Lesson learned and no regrets it was not easy, I know it was the best choice for my health and my future.

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It Will Never Make Sense - They Don't Have Feelings

posted by holly on 20 Mar 2012 at 3:16 pm

I have been married to an N for 3.5 years, together for a total of 6. It's true, he swept me off my feet, was beyond what I could ever imagine having as a boyfriend/husband. I guess I never took the RED FLAGS as red flags.

He did a complete change AFTER we got married. If I had seen the true him I would have ran for the hills asap!

He is verbally abusive and treats me like I owe him my life. I walk on eggshells and nothing is ever good enough - NOTHING! I am 29 year old and want to move on with my life but am confused since there are good days and I do feel like he does love me (only when I am doing something he is happy with). Inside this man is so angry and he takes it out on me. He is a firfighter and constantly tells me how much he is valued and needed and how I am worthless since I don't "save lives."

I know this sin't healthy in any way and I have lost so much of myself and my self esteem. I finally see it. People with NPD are just mean. He is so charming to the rest of the world it makes me sick...I want out and am begining to set myself free by reading all these blogs I have found.

I also don't want to leave because I feel we can work through our problems and divorce is the easy way out, the path you take if you don't want to work on things. I have gone to counseling but it didn't help. He went 1x and said he would never go again. I will try until I feel I can't try anymore. It's really hard since I have some christian values and don't believe in divorce. :(

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Help...

posted by Jenny on 19 Mar 2012 at 7:00 am

I suggest going to see a counselor - what you are going through sounds absolutely horrendous - having someone to talk to may help.

Best of luck.

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helpless

posted by Staci on 18 Mar 2012 at 9:48 pm

HELP My EX is a narcissist .
He has abused and defamed me to the point of madness & chronic depression with sleep deprivation.
He has my children and abuses them mentally daily .Kere at 10 and has boys sleep over and in her bed, shaves her legs. and Little Emma 5.

I have Christmas presents for two years.
He refuses to let me talk to them or have any contact with them. All against the judges orders,

He is in control. Taking advantage of my disability and the fact that he has caused me to have SAD ,PTSD, and Narcissism Victim Syndrome.

Which has caused me depression and a feeling of total helplessness to help and protect my children from his abusive behavior. His type of abuse causes memory loss and cognitive damage like not being able to complete sentences’ in front of authority figures because a feeling a rebuttal is coming before my sentence is finished like past history. I cannot ever finish a sentence without him interrupting me .

I cannot sleep at night witch causes severe sleep depravation which he has tried to betray as drug abuse to the courts the children’s counselor and Cps even though my drug screens are clean.
The Judge has implied that I cover the drugs in my system somehow because of his continuous claims that I am a pill popper and that I pose a danger to my children. He has effected my health in a verity of ways.

He has a history of preying on the weak and infirm.

When I met him I was recovering from a sub/dermal hemotoma caused by a car wreck in which I died 5 times. I had no hair scars and scabs no self esteem and felt ugly.

He found out I was to get a large cash settlement from the wreck. So he wooed me and romanced me and implied that he cared when nobody else did. Alienating me from my family. I was very young 19 and he was 40 ..He likes young girls. He is very sick. now dating a 19 year old girl and he is 54. His youngest daughter is 22.

My life is now a nightmare. I miss my children soooooooooo much. Being away from them is killing me. I just want to hold them close and reassure them that I love them. There dad tells them I don’t love them or I would come home.

Please HELP me.

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husband Has Narcissitic PD

posted by Katy on 17 Mar 2012 at 7:07 am

I am Trapped by my NPD husband, I have been married to him for almost 20 years, There is not One thing left he can do to hurt me, I have been beat, emotionally abused, I have no money, job, friends. He has cheated on me. I have 4 children by this Man. for a long time If i answered him back he would beat me. Now if I try to gain a little control, He attemps suicide. taking enough pills to land him in Hospital. but not to kill him, Then tells everyone It was my fault, and i made him do it because im so awful to live with. I Pray a doctor will see the desperate life I live and Help me!

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Married for 6 years to Narcissitic Abusive Husband

posted by LindaH. on 11 Mar 2012 at 10:02 pm

This person managed to isolate me from friends and family, then verbally, physically and finacially abused me day in and day out. I managed to get out of the marriage and get myself and daughters in counseling and set out onto the long road back to who I was before this person robbed me of my selfworth, esteem, peace, and finally found a meaningful and loving partner in marriage, I still have day's that I cry or feel sad it comes in waves as do hearing the negative comments that I was once called...on days that are difficult my husband is always there for me and comforts me....Good Bless to those who have experienced this type of person and prayers to those who are still enduring this..

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Found out i wasnt crazy

posted by Darragh on 23 Feb 2012 at 1:14 am

For the poster that said "the perfect partner" I had to chuckle. I have been married to one for three years and it is still not over. I only started researching narcissism and BPD today and my emotions are flooding . Not because I realised that my partner is a narcissist but it provides an explanation for the unbelievable behavior and abuse. Distortion, envy etc. Ticks every box except alcoholism and cheating(as far as I know). And by the way, I am a man. My partner is a woman. Narcissism is synonymis with men but women can be too apparently.I am an immigrant from western europe in the states and has been hell since ive been here. Finishing up college for the rest of the semester and going home.

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MAYBE THIS WILL SURPRISE YOU...

posted by Denise on 19 Feb 2012 at 1:54 pm

I heard the term last night, while watching a TV show..."Narcissistic Rage," and thought to myself, "That's exactly what she has!" Who is she? Unfortunately, she is my 22-year-old (adopted) daughter. She's full of rage. I used to call her outbursts "rage attacks". I once mentioned this phrase to my doctor, who thinks she has bipolar disorder, and he had no idea what I was talking about. How could he. He probably lives a somewhat normal life. I've lived in fear for years. I tend to be her scapegoat, and I think my husband's afraid of her too as he doesn't like confrontation... but with his not reigning her in nor defending me, I am left alone, to be abused, called a "bitch" every day, told how much I'm hated, put down, belittled, screamed at with obscenities and much, much more. This person is right, though. There is no changing my daughter. Somehow she became 'Queen of the World". She has no empathy whatsoever, hates authority figures, disdanes rules, thinks she's always right...Again, the list goes on & on. She steals. I have 3 locked rooms in my home. She's been fired from 4 jobs because of insubordination and yet each time says it was her supervisor's fault and wants to therefore sue. (She wants to sue everyone.) Almost every day, I want to leave. It's not that I hate my husband, but our relationship has suffered terribly because of her. She does sometimes threaten me with "Well, you just won't see me anymore."Now I see that these type of people do not change. I wish she were out of my life and I feel terrible saying that.. I have suffered with RSD (an extremely painful and debilitating neurological disorder). I don't know what the cause of my disability is, but I do know that exremes of stress make my pain syndrome much worse. So, what do you do when the narcissist abusing you is the daughter you raised? (By the way, I have a strong faith in God, have no tolerance for lying, am an extremely caring person, I'm not stupid... 'cause my mom says so, but I'm at my wit's end. What happened? Did I do something to create a monster? How can I lead a happy life when I'm dependent on my husband for the things I cannot do? Love & Peace, from "Burnt-out"

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Narcissistic husband - why me?

posted by Angela on 14 Jan 2012 at 12:50 am

I recently divorced my narcissistic husband of 27years, but we still are trying to see each other. I feel lost without him and he makes me feel he is lost without me. I left him two years ago and it has been a back and forth nightmare ever since. We rarely talk we text everything and it still comes out wrong and were in text war,then a couple of days go by and we want to try again. I know deep down that he is wrong and the things he does to munipulate are easier to see, so i fight him on it and he gets very angry and twist and turns everything i said to make me confused. Well he is very good at it and knows me so well works every time. Recently i figured out that iam co-dependent and thats what they prey on, i was a perfect match. Now how do i get away, i just want to fix him. He is so inpatient and doesnt even want to work at all, he says he does but he doesnt, he has all the excuses and all the lies, and you just get to the point to just say ok. I feel i have enabled him by doing everything for him. Now he is lost and cant do anything on his own. So he needs me. Ha Well im on my way to recovery, it is the most disturbing,confusing, painful thing anyone can go through, and im writing a book, the more real stories out there the more women will fight for there life back.

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insidious, pernicious , stealth......

posted by Scott on 8 Dec 2011 at 4:40 pm

In hindsight I can think of so many red flags that seemed subtle or under the radar but I stayed and he slowly chipped away at my self-esteem after building it up. I was so in love that I would only remember the pep talks and the encouraging talks we would have. He praised me and I lapped it up like a puppy dog. Then he would slowly bleed the life out of my soul with digs and jabs. After he talked me into quitting my job and moving away with him knowing that he was getting laid off soon and buying an expensive house together was the big plan. I woke up and came to my senses and moved back home. It was Dec 31st almost a year ago. I've been severely depressed and anxious for most of that time. There was no relief in leaving him only emptiness and hopelessness. I'm slowly improving but its has changed me. My partner didn't want to meet my friends and didn't for almost a whole year. Huge red flag!! Have all your close friends meet and interview the new guy or lady in your life. It does get better.

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Hanging by a Thread

posted by Soulmates on 2 Dec 2011 at 9:12 pm

I've had a secret love affair on and off for 35 years and I have never told a soul. I've just discovered he's a Narcissist. We drifted apart, but would always find eachother and wrote the most beautiful love letters over the years, then emails and now, it's texting and pxting (danger). But, see the pattern - very few phone calls, very few in person visits. We've been very serious long distance for five years, but I have only seen him three times ..... three times! However, he texted everyday unless we had a falling out. Then I'd get the silent treatment until I behaved myself. We live in separate towns so long distance has never been on our side. We almost started a relationship 12 years ago, but instead, he chose someone else - she had to have been on the scene at the same time, but I had no idea. Take your pick, he chose her, but could still have me when he got bored with her and sure enough - he came back. He controls how it's going to be, we we are going to meet - we emailed until he changed jobs, then it's texting, but now he has a job he's working 18-23 hours a day (yeah?), you will hear from him when he can and that is all there is to it. He has days off and has people over for dinner, but doesn't text. Just tell me. Then it's me making a fuss again. He makes time for what's important ... everyone and everything but me. I have had weak days where I've got needy and made such a fuss I got the silent treatment. He comes back and says we will stay in touch, but he's not interested in fighting, can't be bothered with it. Then don't give me cause to. On it went over and over. I gave up on him in March and I was just getting my life back around September. I had a beautiful trip overseas and now I want to die (I don't, but you know). He texted me in October and an email saying "I hope you are keeping well". I replied "no". Well, I hadn't been over him. I lived in hope for that text one day and it came. I waited two weeks and texted and it all started again. All the niceties, promises of meeting until I spoke up again and now am I paying for it. I have pleaded with him, rolled in tears on the floor, I can't find work and thank god I'm not working, sent a photo of me balling, no response. Silent treatment for two weeks and I actually think he's gone this time - the Narcissist discards for someone more "stable" and "fun". He's the fun Police! and funny, he was a Policeman. When someone is that distraught and almost suicidal, how do you ignore them? Somewhere I have the strength not to give up on myself. But I am shocked at what I am seeing in my soulmate - he was, he was my everything since I was a young teen. I did everything for him, there was so much love on both parts, but I was the giver. I did what he said within reason, I did all the texting, gifting, emailing. When you look at the emails, there are screeds from me and one or two from him each month, so I started to think I was obsessive. No, just not getting responses so I'd keep writing to get something back. I kept giving to eventually get something back. He's a multi millionaire now, he wasn't when we were kids, so it's not that, but he has spent about $100 on me in 35 years. Cheap crap gifts. I did the majority of the pxting, yikes. I spent a fortune. I told him all this and I think he now knows I'm onto him. The mask has slipped and he's outed! I wrote him an email the other day, very diplomatically showing concern and asking him to see his Doctor, I think he may be Narcissistic. They seldom get help as they do not see this in themselves and I told him this also. I said I have been Googling my feelings and everything bounces back Narcissist or Psychopath! - The words I searched were emotional abuse, lack of empathy, workaholic, silent treatment. I asked him to look these up also and to please get help. I assured him no one else will know, I will be there for him always if he wants help getting through this. But I have walked away at last and I'm a little scared for my safety. He has never put me down, never criticised, never laid a finger on me, sex has been so beautiful and gentle, although a bit deviant and that is not quite right. He brags about being a deviant..... It's so hard, I just want to be his soulmate, friend, see him again, hold him in my arms and just be there for one another. We have been, but now I am seeing something so scary, I sit shaking some days. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety, but I don't think so. I haven't heard a word since that email and me having a go the other day saying how could you keep working when your best friend and lover is so dangerously upset over the way you are treating me. Silence. I weakened today and did the whole why me, please talk to me, etc. texting about five times - dam it. I just want to talk it through, even end it, but talk. I know it's not all my fault. I called his Doctor surgery in absolute hysterics, I thought he was going to come after me or commit suicide himself, I was so emotional on the phone. They just didn't get it. I called back and told someone else, they must advise his Doctor he is Narcissistic. I am thinking of calling his local Police as his Ex - or I think she now is works there and very senior. She had a nasty car accident last Christmas, so I'm in two minds, she has to heal from that. They were together 12 years I think and he told me five years ago when we got back in touch that she was leaving to work in another part of the country so, although doing this behind her back and I know how wrong it is, she's still here..... I so wanted to tell her, but I'm just as bad and here is my kharma... I said to myself, he will leave her now she's all smashed up ...... and look here, she's not there, he's texted me very freely at night and anytime at home. She was a triathlete so you can imagine the body, she is so respected, but she's damaged goods now to him. That is why I want to out myself to her, but I can't, she's been so close to death. But I could tell her colleague to be discreet. Everyday I just have to get further on my run.... Maybe just run, don't put myself through more by possibly being found out for my part. I see now, what a fool I am - but I know him way more than his own mother over these years. He had children and got violent with wife no. 1, she left. Wife No. 2 had an affair and left. That is when we almost became a couple, but he was seeing and chose Victim no. 3 and remained partners til early this year. I think she needed homecare and I can't see him doing that - empathy? get off! He kept money separate with her because he lost too much to exes. And now he's a narcissistic lonely sad millionaire.

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Hope I'm not One - Narcissist

posted by Hope on 15 Nov 2011 at 7:12 pm

I think I may be one of these types and I don't know what to do. I am scared I am always going to be hateful towards people including my boyfriend who truly loves me. I don't love him the way I wished I did & so I tend to get angry a lot about it & take it out on him. Just reading your opinions and stories on here is very helpful. I want to expose myself but don't know where to start!

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my husband a narcissist.....i think!!!!!!

posted by june on 6 Nov 2011 at 9:35 am

I think my husband has this problem.

He has not only stripped me of myself and my self worth he has now started on my children. Now that they are teenagers

My eldest suffered panic attacks and anxiety. I told her she was no daughter of his, she would amount to nothing in life and would never be anything.

I knew he was horrible but i always thought cos I loved my children and did everything I could for them and kept them out of his way that i was protecting them.

But I wasnt. My youngest is studying physcology at school and cam home and said look up narcissist mum i believe this is what dad is.

The years of being with this man has affected us all. He is cunning and very manipulative. But also verbally aggressive and has made us all hate him.....how can a person be so cruel to his family

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The light bulb moment - its not your fault!!

posted by Hugo on 30 Oct 2011 at 4:12 pm

The light bulb moment comes when at long last, the monsterous behaviour of our "tormentors" is identified, understood and revealed, to be Narcissism.

We must not blame ourselves, nor be ashamed of our circumstances, it is easy to exploit the good, honest and the kind. However, when that "lightbulb" moment comes, we must learn, understand and then leave for our own wellbeing.

After dating a narcissist and having a narcissist for a work colleague, you begin to see the patterns and join the dots. Day by day you are ground down under criticism and belittlement, you question yourself and not them until, afterall they love us right ? wrong, they love themselves and we are just their to be used and abused. sad but true.

The issue is not to save them,but to save yourself. The have practiced the art of deceit for decades and are now masterful actors who mimmick love towards us but are really our adversaries, hell bent on our control and destruction. All narcissists will feed on your submissiveness,humility, kindness,generosity and love until they get bored or you are no longer of value to them. People are tools to narcissists and their methods are a slow death to their victims. They will erode your self esteem, self worth and turn others against you, friends and family will look down on you, because the narcissist has manipulated them as well as you. Like a cancer, it cannot co-exist with good cells,it must be removed. Distance yourself from such tormernt, break away from expected comformity and compliance, avoid following their plans and opinions, see the enemy for who they are and look beyond the "Gloss" of their image and see their true evil motives. Remember, it is usually our own pride, that helps to deceive us as well as the skilled lies of the narcissist.

Once we come wise, we must act wise. The narcissist is damaged goods, and so often our pride (Belief that they love us) tells us that we can change/save.Only god can do that, we must save ourselves.

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Daughter of a N Mother

posted by Ann J on 29 Oct 2011 at 8:47 am

I have worked my entire life to please her. I have given my entire soul to make her happy, even if it is just until the next tirade.
My brother and I were raised in an abusive situation. He went on, after a deeply troubled life, to marry a N. I'm now 40 (and female) and am afraid of marriage and of having children. The range of abuse from my mother was from mean little comments, to full out screaming, to throwing objects and knives at us, to pushing us into harmful objects like our stone fireplace.

We got by with signing up for all kinds of extra activities in school. All were free, thankfully! This meant that we were not home. Often times we were punished and not given dinner. When we did get dinner, we fixed it ourselves and it was 9 or 10 at night or so.

My mother owns her own business and this was used for the excuse for all of the abuse. She was much to busy to help us or be a mother, that was her excuse. She screamed at us daily that she was working hard for us. Our father was always at work and working overtime. When he returned home, she would give him the run-down of what horrible kids he had and he would then punish us too. There was no way to escape this reality. We did household chores perfectly and without being asked, did our homework, did the laundry. You would never really understand why you were in trouble, just that you were. We were in trouble the second we woke up to the screaming and things being thrown at us. Of course, the things being screamed were very bad and we were constantly being told how worthless we were.

On the outside, my mother was very nice. We were model kids, involved and excelling in everything at school. We just happened to be bruised and bleeding on the inside. I used to stare in the mirror after one of her tirades and I was amazed that I wasn't bleeding out of my eyes. I used to burn myself with the curling iron. I still can't understand that exactly.

Fast forward and we still can't escape her and her business. She uses it to keep us tethered to her. I work a few days a week for her because I need the money. I stay at their house overnight because I live out of town. It has been re-living my youth only with a more sinister twist. My brother's N wife brings their child over those nights for babysitting. My mother lavishes love and gifts on both the child and the wife. The wife is competitive and demeaning to me. She knows my mother loves her more than she loves me and when together I am their slave and I spend my time trying to satisfy their every whim. For the last 5 years I've done everything for the wife from multiple wedding/baby showers to clearing her plate and doing all the dishes. She insults me and then turns to my mother, they both smile and get on with their love-fest. She's getting the mother I've been working so hard to earn.

Well, yesterday I told my Mother I could no longer work in her business. I will lose my house but I cannot stand the screaming and mean-ness anymore. I have a natural frown to my face, I was born with it. My mother tells me constantly that she hates me because I look grouchy. I don't have any money, but I want to save up for plastic surgery. If I can fix the downturn then maybe she will love me. I also need braces badly. I feel bad smiling because my teeth were never corrected. These together, I guess, have complicated my look. Sometimes I can see why she is not proud of me. Maybe there is a solution after all but I don't know how to get there. I don't know how to stay away from her either. She'll threaten all kinds of things and I'll be back at her business and then waiting on her and the daughter I've been replaced with. That's the only kind of worth I know so maybe that's the best way anyway.

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Always chosen to be victim?

posted by Nancy on 9 Oct 2011 at 3:05 pm

I think it's important to mention my MBTI personality type since I strongly believe that certain types are chosen as victims by narcissists. According to every testI'm a INTJ with a 100% T. It's my believe narcissists may choose IxTx (Introverted thinkers) as their victim of choice.

I was a victim of a narcissistic mother up until two years ago when I cut her and the rest of my biological family (they were used as her "agents" to scapegoat me) three days after my dad's funeral. I thought I was doing pretty well until a narcissist at work chose me to be his victim.

This young male is in his early 20's. He has every symptom of narcissism. He is also quite lazy and sleeps and watches Youtube during work hours. In spite of this, he was brought back to the company two weeks after quitting (and failing at the job he quit for) His narcissism was even worse than before and he interfered with my work and took credit for it whenever he could. I requested (and was denied) a shift change to get away from him. A week after his return, I know there was no way I could tolerate his abuse any longer so I told my boss either he goes or I do (and I literally did twice as much work in one day as he does in an entire work week) Needless to say, I'm now unemployed.

After dealing with my mother's abuse and this coworkers abuse for two months (before he quit) the week he returned was enough. Last week was my last day and since then I've been suffering from PTSD symptoms (no - I do not plan on taking action against the company and this is in no way trying to gain support on that) I loved that job although there is absolutely no way I'll leave myself in a narcissistic abuse situation again. It was bad enough dealing with it from my mother (once I realized she was the problem, I had no problem cutting her out of my life)

Have you noticed that narcissists choose certain personality types as their would-be victims? Do you have any advise in finding a healthy work environment as I seek another job? Do you have any advise on helping me recover from the PTSD symptoms (I no longer have health insurance and cannot afford medical / psychological treatment)

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I'm in the process of divorcing a narcissit husband

posted by Susan on 3 Sep 2011 at 9:41 am

I was very happy to have found this site. I have been struggling terribly with depression, guilt, WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY, I gave up my self as a person, and I was still wondering WHY? I loved him so much, gave him my all, at a great expense to myself.. I have been reading all I could find about narcissistic behavior, however, it wasn't untill I found this site and have started to reasearch the effect's on the spouse and have read in black & white my husband's persona in exact detail.. I will be back again to this site, because as it is said the narcisstic never appear's to other's to be the one whom is mentally ill, but they can make you look and feel like you are the crazy one! I am astonished at what this man has been able to do to me, but do know feel I can and will recover and regain my person..Thank You, Susan

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Recovered NV

posted by L on 31 Aug 2011 at 4:41 am

I was surrounded by narcissists: mother, sister, brother, the ex, our daughter and the mother in law. I ignorantly picked a narcissist for a 37 yr marriage, since I was raised to be a giver to takers. The last straw, before my narcissistic mother died, was when she mistreated my disabled, adult son. My son also saw what I didn't see; that my mother was abusive to me. Now that she's gone I have grown a spine and see healthier ways to connect with other givers, not abusive takers; don't have to take my sister's crap any longer; used to be a Cinderella, literally doing all their scutt work, while they ate the best and I starved for food, for love, yet I took it, because I was trained to be servile. Now that Mom is gone, I don't have to be treated badly. My passion in life is freedom and to only serve Gd, because I'm a child of the King. I have my dignity back and nobody can decide anything for me, unless I sign off on it, too. If I see a red flag, I am aware, before it becomes a parade of red flags. Get away from the narcissist. Takers will suck you dry. There's nothing you can do to "help" them. Just get away from them, or you're toast.Learn that being a victim and working yourself down to nothing for them is not a life for anyone. Learn to say, "No!" Let them stew, while you live a quality life, or you'll be under their foot on your neck. That's no way to live. Wake up! If I did, anyone could. It's never too late to be free and happy. Don't look back.

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