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Vitamin
posted by Deb on 09 Oct 2004 at 2:07 amI've been taking high doses of Vitamin C for 20 years now.....I do believe in the benefits.
Read the news article that this opinion was posted about:
Vitamin C, Linus Pauling was right all along. A doctor's opinion
Arrogance is just stupidity with another name
posted by Sue on 06 Oct 2010 at 10:46 am
My Dad was a pretty smart guy... genius IQ, patent holder of some pretty sophisticated aircraft instrumentation. He taught me two things as a chid that, I think, everyone could live their life by...
1: There are two kinds of smart people... those who know everything and can't possibly learn anything new... and those who remember how they got smart, and realize that there is always more to learn and that new information should always be considered and can change previous conclusions.
...He made me promise to always be in the second group.
2: You can't know everything, but anything you don't know you can teach yourself. Books are a good place to start.
My Dad was completely self educated as he only went as far as trade school after high school. He designed and contracted two homes we lived in, built a double hulled sailboat from scratch and invented the first anti-aircraft collision device ever patented (among other things).
I am CONSTANTLY amazed at the arrogance of (supposedly) smart people who seem to think they already know everything and have closed their mind to new information. They then compound that stupidity, by continuing to insist they are right in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
Just goes to show you that education, intellect, stupidity and (perhaps) mental illness, can all live in the same person.
Great comment Sue!!^^^
posted by mildred on 07 Nov 2010 at 8:35 pm
I whole heartedly agree, with you and your Dad =)
tried it! for me it works
posted by James on 21 Dec 2010 at 5:01 am
I lived in Costa Rica for a number of years and one year while living there went through a period where there were four different flu virus and a huge number of people had fallen sick. All 12 of my staff were violently ill with one or more of the flu’s, as was my entire family, who all became sick at the same time. I was consuming large amounts of vitamin C some in pill form, but mostly using fresh orange juice, almost a gallon a day (we had some orange trees in the backyard).
Weeks went by with more and more people becoming ill, work in the country almost came to a halt. After the first week I noticed that even though I was exposed to the different flu viruses by directly taking care of my family members (I had to clean up after them) I had not gotten sick, I increased the dosage to be safe. Weeks went by, then a month; many people just recovering were hit by a second and third wave of the flu. After two months things returned to normal, and even though I was exposed to all the flu strains going around I never got sick, never felt ill.
To this day I never take flu shots, but take large amounts of C when those around me become ill with colds or flu’s. As a kid growing up without taking the vitamin C I had my share of colds and flu’s but not anymore. At times I have not taken the C a little late after the onset of exposure to the flu, and would start to get the early signs achy feeling and sneezing , and would drink a few bottles of O.J. and a few C pills, 6 hours later the flu like feelings were gone.
Other people I know have tried large doses of C but haven’t gotten the same results, so all I know is that it works for me. I never had a flu shot in my life or for that matter any of the standard immunizations given to youth or adults, maybe that makes a difference.
Stay healthy
Those that can: do! Those that can't: teach! Those that can't teach: teach teachers!
posted by Daniel J. G. Stumpf on 01 Jan 2011 at 6:23 pm
If only I had known that the issue of the efficacy of Vitamin C, with respect to the common cold and cancer, was fraught with such 'frenetic backstabbing', I would have been more circumspect in voicing my personal observations and endorsement of the substance, while studying Organic Chemistry, at the University of Toronto, ending 2004.
In retrospect, I now regret my remark that the U of T's study which, as I understand it, generated 'results' contrary to my own personal experience, was probably flawed through the presumed use of sodium ascorbate, the sodium salt and conjugate base of Vitamin C, instead of ascorbic acid itself: the difference being that for the "Vitamin C" dose to be actually available chemically, a person's digestive system must FIRST be acidic enough in terms of both pH AND quantity of acidic species present, to re-protonate the sodium ascorbate and COMPLETELY convert it to the biologically active Vitamin C molecule. In other words: "Chewable Vitamin C" can turn out to be nothing more than glorified salt pills; one could eat a plate-full and yet have next to no additional Vitamin C in one's system. Similarly, use of anti-acids interferes with re-protonation.
Until now, I had assumed that my branch of science attracted Army-Type 'Government Suits' in search of those suspected of possessing unauthorized political opinions; who would then arrange for research grants to be awarded to those who arbitrarity assign grades accordingly. Now I am not so sure.
Dr. Pauling...brilliant beyond his years!
posted by Dave on 04 Feb 2011 at 8:16 am
I have been using Dr. Paulings findings on the use of vit C for over 30 years and it works. I think one of the most important aspects of his theory is the point of "dynamic flow" in the body, ie, the presence of a constant level of vit C. He had written an article years ago where he described in simplistic terms how his dynamic flow works.....Imagine filling a sink with water.
When you pull the plug, the sink empties. But if you fill the sink and you introduce water from the faucet at the same rate as water exits the drain, what happens to the water level in the sink? It simply stays at the same level. His theory was that if vit C can stay at a consistent level in the body throughout the day, then it will be more effective in stimulating the immune system. I agree and so far, it has worked beautifully for me.
Dave
Superb
posted by Allan N. Spreen, MD on 06 Feb 2011 at 6:50 am
Magnificent article...shows NIH in the light in which they should be shown.
Kudos to Dr. Roberts,
ANSpreen,MD
Makes sense
posted by Capt V K Malhotra on 05 Mar 2011 at 2:21 am
For centuries in India a rejuvenating medicine has been used. It is based on the Indian gooseberry (Phyllanthus Emblica) and is called Chyawanprash. The gooseberry has more vitamin c than oranges, megadoses so to speak.Of course Mr Pauling is right. Drug companies are not interested in anything that cannot be patented.
A better way
posted by Maria on 07 Mar 2011 at 2:18 am
I watched my mother die of cancer and I knew there had to be another way. Right now, two of my friends have cancer. Each has gone through horrendous treatment, disfiguring surgery that will always be a legacy of their disease. I have tried to pass on alternative information to them, but each has succumbed to invasive chemotherapy plus hysterectomies, all so they can trial an alternative drug!
What I find difficult is that these 'specialists' must be reading as widely as we all are - or are they? Are they perhaps, simply puppets, pawns in the hands of money-hungry drug giants? It beggars belief!
Vitamin C again
posted by Roma on 26 Mar 2011 at 6:17 pm
When Dr. Pauling's book first came out I was experiencing strep throat episodes that took me to the emergency room. I started taking massive doses as Dr. Pauling suggested and never experienced that problem again. More recently I was found to be deficient in Vitamin D and was advised to also take calcium. My intake of Vitamin C decreased over time and arthritis in my leg became painful. I am just getting over a very bad cold and turned again to Vitamin C only to find that my arthritis pain has gone and I can only contribute that to Vitamin C. I am totally back on my Vitamin C routine. Amazing results.
Intravenous C
posted by Mr Ramesh Patel on 19 Oct 2011 at 4:18 am
Intravenous C is a cheap drug. (as mentioned above, drug companies are not interested because it cannot be patented and therefore does not generate high profits). It would not be difficult to get quite a lot of volunteers for a good randomised trial. In fact, some such trials have been attempted.
It is interesting that even 7 years after the article above, there is still no evidence other than a few anecdotes showing that high dose vitamin C works. And some of the anecdotes are easily explainable by placebo effect, contrary to what some have said. Lack of evidence of effect is not the same as evidence of lack of effect, so I will remain hopeful that a good trial will someday appear showing that it works, but I won't be holding my breath.
V-C Works!
posted by Karen Williams on 04 Nov 2011 at 9:36 am
Hi -
After reading some of the above, felt I had to add my testimony. I am a 69 y/o grandmother, mother of two. I work a full time job. Up at 4 am every morning and don't stop until about 6-7 pm. I take a number of vitamins and supplements, among them - super greens and LOTS of V-C. I have never had the flu, and have not had a cold in YEARS! As I have a very full schedule (weekly) - I know taking care of the body - WORKS!! Thank God for this wonderful knowledge. And, yes, I agree - the medical field is overloaded with "money-grabbing" people. Which includes the drug industry. (I am NOT on any prescription meds either).
Thank you for allowing me to share!
Lifetime value of viatmin c
posted by linda Bong on 02 Dec 2011 at 8:55 am
As a child I ate copious amounts of oranges and lemons, and especially loved the white part of the fruit where the bioflavonoids are. I rarely was sick and to this day I may get one cold or influenza a year if that and I am 60 years old. I worked for years with disabled and mentaly challenged children without catching colds or influennzas. I take no medications today and excellent health. I am very athletic and I run every day in the hills near my home in Hawaii and swim year-round in Hawaii where I live.I continue to inject viatmin c both in foods and orally. I would imagine that with what we know today about the tatics of the pharmaceudical indsry and their lobbisits that they had a hand in blocking the facts or getting them publically refuted for so long.
Had quad CAB 14 years ago
posted by mike travis on 06 Feb 2012 at 4:19 pm
Had quad CAB 14 years ago. Excellent job. Cost 14 grand. Now may be blocking up again a little. 3 months ago started taking 4 grams vit C, 4 grams lysine and 500mg of proline daily. No problems now. Wish I had read Linus paulings notes years ago. I also still take the doctors treatment as prescribed. May increase vit C to 5 grams and lysine to 5 grams as well. Godsend. Regards Mike.
vitamin C
posted by timothyfranksarris on 17 Feb 2012 at 7:52 am
evolution didn't allow the body to make it's own vit c.because God made citrus fruits to obtain our vit c medical scientists have just discovered that heart disease;cancer; colds@other other illnesses are linked to inflamation vit cis an acid and acid will cure most inflamation problems by either increasing immunity response or directly by attacking inflamation itself so it makes alot of sense to my medical knowledge
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