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Transendental Meditation Is Dangerous.
posted by Gary Gold on 20 May 2007 at 8:18 pmNot everything of a spiritual nature is good for us. Anytime we venture into spiritual explorations we desperately need discernment. During the height of Transcendental Meditation fad in the 70's, the TM instrutors also had the highest suicide rate of any trainers in a spiritual system. TM is just recycled hinduism which, at the heart of the system, inductees are given a mantra which is a past hindu god which is to be chanted unnumbered times each day leading into peaceful bliss. The opposite is true. The person chanting the name invites spiritual parasites to oppress them. I speak out of experience and not theory. Gary Gold PhD
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The Effect Of The Transcendental Meditation Technique On ADHD
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| I Agree With Gary |
| posted by James Hardwood on 21 May 2007 at 12:06 pm |
| Meditation is UnChristian. It is an act of evil which invites fornication, Satan and all his followers. It should be kept far away from decent, God-fearing folk. |
| I Hate Spiritual Parasites! |
| posted by cantubury on 24 May 2007 at 11:15 am |
| I do take dr. natural's herbs for my colon's intestinal parasites. What natural remedy do i use for "spiritual parasites". Is there a test.! Is this just a mens issue? Does newsflashradio know about this? Where can I find info about the Church of Average Grace? I understand they have a cure. thx for the 411; I will block any transendentialists from my emails. |
| TM Is Hindusim |
| posted by Roger on 26 May 2007 at 9:45 am |
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Chanting incantations to Hindu dieties is a dangerous spiritual and religious activity. I am amazed that media still hasn't got this yet. All you have to do is ask a few former Hindu converts to Chrisitanity in India how dangerous some of the hindu spiritual entities (demons) really are.
The whole Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) are is replete with religuous and occult techniques. We have the government spending hundreds of millions on researching religious fads and then trying to get them into public schools but we can't even discuss "intelligent Design." However, we can rename radiology, "energy medicine" and include Reiki and chakra therapy and Tai Chi with MRI's and sonograms. Go figure. For more info on TM see http://www.yogadangers.com. |
| Roger Is Right |
| posted by Reverend Ian Porter on 26 May 2007 at 1:09 pm |
| America is populated by God Fearing Christians. Anyone treading the waters of acupuncture, homeopathy and other heathen rites is dancing with Satan and all his non-American demons. God Bless America - may he protect us from foreigners and their evil. |
| Who Is More Scary? |
| posted by Geroge Simmons on 26 May 2007 at 1:22 pm |
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As an Englishman reading the article and some of these comments, I have just one thing to say:
These American Jesus Freaks who attack Meditation sound more frightening and "evil" than the people they are attacking, to me. |
| Ummm...Yeah... |
| posted by Rocknrye on 31 May 2007 at 8:43 am |
| I didn't know that backwards Nascar fans could even spell "Transcendental", yet not know that most, if not all, religions are the same. They just have different names and some practices. Let's see, the serious Christians are the "Snake Charmers". Prayer is different than meditation? Chanting names: Who will save me? "Jesus"!; Who's the man? "Jesus!" I just don't see the difference yet and I've been studying theology for the better part of my life. Foreigners fly planes into big buildings but citizens teach them how to. Well, they did pay for the lessons didn't they? |
| To George The Frightened Englishman |
| posted by Roger on 01 Jun 2007 at 7:13 am |
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Yes us Christians are just intolerant backwoods nuckledragging snake-handling neandrethals in need of serious orthodontia. Well I am a former Anglican and have an advanced degree from Carnegie-Mellon and was a published behavior therpast at Johns Hopkins. While traveling in South Africa I ministered at a church of almost two thousand former Hindus of east Indian descent (they were brought as slaves to Durban, South Africa.) The demonic oppression from these Hindu dieities is real. I saw people go into trances and slither around like snakes. Us Americans are above believing in this stuff but it is real. Most of members of the church were well educated and have even renounced vegetarianism in their efforts to break free of Hindu strongholds.
Nascar is ok but I prefer Formula 1. Roger |
| US Churches Have Their People In A Trance-like State |
| posted by Janet Kenneth on 01 Jun 2007 at 11:23 am |
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I am from Scotland. When travelling around the USA last year I came across three so-called 'Christian Churches' where people chanted as a person was 'miraculously cured'. The person was in such a state I thought he had epilepsy. I have been told many churches in the USA use this technique as it is catchy and pulls in the crowds.
I would never, ever heed the paranoid rantings of a vain, American man of the cloth. |
| US Churches |
| posted by Maria Fuentes on 01 Jun 2007 at 11:27 am |
| I am from Colombia and live in Alabama, USA. I came here 8 years ago. During my first month I was taken to a 'christian church' by some people. I was shocked. It was more like a show, with chantings, performances, 'miracles' while you watch. I would never trust an American religious man - there is too much showbusiness and bigotry in his soul, and not enough love. |
| (Third) Eye Of The Beholder? |
| posted by John D. on 04 Jun 2007 at 11:36 am |
| Some of you might wonder why Jesus would go into the desert to fast and pray for 40 days. Prayer has been called talking to God and meditation, listening. Intention is all! |
| Not Something To Shrug Off |
| posted by John D. on 05 Jun 2007 at 4:53 am |
| For you fundies out there that damn meditation as the devil's opening, I gently suggest scientific investigation of this deep modality. Man has been meditating since he first discovered he had a mind. Both good and evil lurk therein, but don't be afraid to look. You can start here, with the 844 page "Zen and the Mind" by James H. Austin, M.D. Then come back with some more studied and reasoned commentary. |
| Advanced Degree My Ass |
| posted by chris mccasland on 22 Jun 2007 at 4:10 pm |
| Your grammar is horrible. You say 'us' christians and 'us' americans. It is "we". You couldn't pass a 7th grade grammar exam |
| American Christians |
| posted by Dee Ay on 23 Sept 2007 at 12:29 pm |
| I am an American, and I can say that some Christians here in American are a bit...blind.... When it comes to meditation, I do feel that it should be left to people who have done it for years. Meditation should be left to the religions that have done it for thousands of years. If you know nothing about it don't do it! And I agree with the previous text. Dude if you're going to preach to us on how smart you are, I would check your grammar first. Makes you wonder who the dumbass really is. |
| Read Your Bible Yourself Jesus Was A Zen Master |
| posted by Steve on 19 Oct 2007 at 4:27 pm |
| Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven was within. TM teaches going within. Jesus gave up all material things and people and food for 40 days thats a way to induce trance and go into deep meditative states. He said to keep your mind on only that which is good and holy. Crap sounds like Jesus was a positive thinking new age hippie to. almost all the ways of how to meditate are in the bible in many of the verses Christians ignore Love is a meditation ive only seen a few Christians practice and those aren't so vain and high headed even though they actually walk with God. If you try anything in this world and are fearful and not self sacrificing if you are afraid to die cause you aren't in love with people and God its very dangerous and the more spiritual the more dangerous cause it takes you more inside to were real strength is. |
| Meditation And Sin |
| posted by Rev. Nicholas Unwin on 20 Oct 2007 at 11:28 am |
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How dare you say that the Lord Jesus Christ was a hippie and a meditator. May you suffer the wrath of God for your blasphemous devlish sayings!!
God Bless America. |
| Hilarious |
| posted by David Lynch Fan on 25 Oct 2007 at 5:11 pm |
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I'm an exponent of TM and would like it to be taught in all schools because the world would be a beautiful place if all our kids knew of the happiness that could be found within.
6 million people practice TM in the world now, thats 0.1% of the population and thats only in the last 50 years or so that it has grown to that number. David Lynch is touring the world right now and getting support from school teachers everywhere to advocate the practice in schools for free, isn't that amazing? Check out the david lynch foundation, the guy is a legend. |
| Religion In A Box |
| posted by james schlund on 21 Nov 2007 at 5:26 am |
| i find it amazingly ignorant, to say we are right, everyone else is wrong. Jesus did not. his example to us was to be not tolerant, but to embrace all peoples and religions, he does. to suggest muslim or jewish or vedic holymen preach untruths because they are not christians is wrong. Tenzin Gatso, His Holiness, The Dali Lama, the reincarnated leader of the buddhist faith, declared, in a speech in Atlanta( Oct. 2007) " I am a 'Bu-Christian, I love JESUS CHRIST'. I am too. I guess Jesus, the Dali lama, and I are not boxed christians. Intolerance is ignorance and a disgraceful act. 'all religions give hope and healing,'- george harrison-1973 |
| Fairy Tales |
| posted by HUBERT G GRAHAM on 03 Dec 2007 at 1:12 pm |
| All religions were created by man. ..they are organizations of control. The bible is NOT the word of god, it was written by men. Religion is behind every war and burn 'em at the stake event throughout history. I can't believe that modern and rational human beings still cling to concocted stories that are thousands of years old and contain no empirical evidence to support them. "FAIRY TALES" Religion is a man made myth, spirituality is god given. The essence of soul lies in the quantum universe. Organized religion is a box trap of control. The pope is a clown. |
| Blasphemy Is A Great Sin! |
| posted by Rev. John Ruckmin on 03 Dec 2007 at 7:01 pm |
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To say the bible is a myth is blasphemy. Whoever does so should be whipped and made never to do it again. Repent!!
God Bless America and her God fearing Christians!! |
| Meditation Is The Devil's Work |
| posted by Juima Fituri on 03 Dec 2007 at 7:05 pm |
| If you meditate you are asking the devil to take over your life. God will abandon you, hate you, and take pleasure in punishing you. Is that what you want? |
| To The Rev.s |
| posted by Joyce Marie on 30 Dec 2007 at 7:55 pm |
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Dudes, you are scarey men! Did you ever read the Gospels of the New Testament? You should try it sometime. Who did Jesus criticize? Your attitude and comments are very un-Christ-like.
You are also very un-American. This is a country of free choice where people come to avoid religious persecution. You have no right to wish ill will on anybody. Besides, don't you know that what you give out comes back to you? Also, you should really research something before you criticize it. That would be the intelligent thing to do. Fear is based on misunderstanding. Have the courage to step forward and investigate. Steve was not insulting Jesus by calling him a hippie--it's you who have a bias against the lable. Finally, I do not fear God, he is Divine and All -Loving, All forgiving. It is people like you that I fear, with closed minds and little hearts. |
| 2nd Thought |
| posted by Joyce Marie on 31 Dec 2007 at 7:24 pm |
| Or is it little minds and closed hearts? |
| Why The Need To Exaggerate? |
| posted by Ed Raines on 28 Mar 2008 at 3:24 pm |
| I've lived in Fairfield Iowa for five years among the meditating 'Ru's' (short for guru) that have brought a sense of community pride unparalleled in S.E. Iowa. Any such group unfortunately attracts less than well people hoping to be healed. I myself while no fan of Maharishi (his teacher Guru Dev told him not to charge money for the knowledge he was given) have befriended many a TMer who's shown me honesty, loyalty and compassionate understanding.....the traits Jesus seemed big on. Tired of watching my TMer friends enjoy physical and mental youth and energy, I've decided to learn TM...........not join a cult.........not worship deities that are.........cute but kinda ridiculous.........Just learn a technique that was developed before hinduism existed. Satan has a greater hold, I think, on the paranoid and the blind fanatic than me. |
| By Their Fruit You Will Know Them |
| posted by Jesus is Lord on 14 Apr 2008 at 5:47 pm |
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Dear friends and brothers,
Let us not bicker and quarrel amongst ourselves concerning these things. And let us not become slothful in our acquisition of knowledge. The mature Christian will test everything to see whether or not it is from God. Do not answer evil for evil concerning those who reproach us, but rather love them. "Love worketh no ill to his neighbor."--Paul Brothers, we can discern these things because of the Holy Spirit which lives in us; we have no need to be taught by anyone, if it be that the Spirit of God dwells in us. But clamor, evil speaking, malice, bursts of anger, and foolish arguments will be manifested in men who are already practicing evil, who delight in airing their own opinions, and do not walk in the God-kind of love. Let's not have excessive zeal without knowledge, brethren. I have heard reports that these techniques may be able to inform us in becoming quiet in our minds and bodies to hear from God, as well as many other benefits and I intend to read more on the subject. Again, we must ask God to give us wisdom concerning these things, because all things were created by Him and through Him. All live to Him. If you believe in Jesus Christ, his love dwells in you and you in Him. Remember when Abraham's servant was returning with Rebekkah to bring her to Isaac, "And Isaac came from the way of the well La-hai-roi; for he dwelt in the south country. And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels were coming."--(GEN:24:62-63) Since Isaac was of the houshold of faith, and walked before God as his father Abraham did, we shouldn't say that meditation in itself is evil. I don't want us to chant names of devils, but if this meditation can be used to improve my relationship with God through Jesus Christ, I am going to try it. |
| Follow-up |
| posted by Christ is Lord on 24 Apr 2008 at 2:32 pm |
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Dr. Gold is correct. This practice is demonic in origin and should be avoided. It can be said without reservation that Maharishi is, at best, a hired hand who cares nothing for the sheep, and at worst, a liar and a thief.
If you are practicing these things and experiencing headaches, muscle aches, depression, anxiety, mental illness, or any other such symptom than HEAR ME NOW: Do not hearken unto their lies that you are de-stressing and that you should stay with the program. They are lying to you. Get out of that practice, repent, and ask Jesus Christ to be the Lord of your life. With him there is abundance of all these things promised by "Maharishi," this alleged, "Great seer of truth." Do not believe them when they tell you that there is something spiritually wrong with you for leaving the program. Flee! Get out! I demand, declare, and claim supernatural protection in the Name of Jesus Christ. Let all who oppose him be confounded and ashamed. |
