Vitamin C, Linus Pauling was right all along. A doctor's opinion
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'Vitamin C, Linus Pauling was right all along. A doctor's opinion'
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It is the 10th anniversary of the death of Linus Pauling and his most controversial scientific conjectures about the health benefits of vitamin C are being confirmed. The weight of evidence may yet force the medical establishment to accept his ideas on nutrition and health.
Linus Pauling's claim, that he knew a cure for heart disease, cancer and infections, was greeted with ridicule. His remarkable health claims concerned the substance we know as vitamin C. Now, ten years after his death on 19th August 1994, his revolutionary ideas are finally on the way to vindication. Given his history, it should not surprise us if Pauling was right all along. He was, after all, the leading chemist of the last century and, arguably, the greatest ever American scientist. He remains the only person to have won two unshared Nobel Prizes, the first for Chemistry (1954) and the second for peace (1962). In addition to being one of the greatest scientists ever, he was a renowned humanitarian.
By the time of his death, the medical establishment had branded Pauling a quack, because he advocated the use of high doses of vitamin C to treat many diseases. Irwin Stone first introduced Pauling to vitamin C, and explained that it wasn't really a vitamin at all, but an essential substance we could no longer manufacture in our bodies. Most animals make their own vitamin C, in large amounts. In humans, the gene for this ability has mutated and no longer works properly.
When Pauling looked into Stone's claims, he found that conventional medicine had long ignored evidence from respected physicians and scientists. This research suggested that high doses of vitamin C might be a cure for many illnesses, including cancer and heart disease. However, when he explained these findings in his wonderfully constructed books "Vitamin C and the Common Cold" and "How to Live Longer and Feel Better", the medical profession was incensed, implying that a mere chemist could not possibly understand the intricacies of medical science.
If Pauling was correct, vitamin C could help overcome the major killers in the industrialised world. This sounded so unlikely that a lesser scientist making the claim would probably have been ignored; the medical world had already disregarded similar reports of vitamin C. Linus Pauling had a reputation for being 20 years ahead of other scientists.
He may well have been years ahead in other fields but, in medicine, the insiders considered such a thing to be impossible. Pauling battled with the medical authorities and convinced a lot of the public of the benefits of high dose vitamin C. He took on the medical establishment because the implication for health was enormous: an end to premature death and unnecessary suffering from heart disease, infection and many cancers.
If the body could be saturated at low doses, the argument went, higher doses were simply a waste or even potentially dangerous. However, clinical reports of the utility of high dose vitamin C had been repeated in the literature for over 50 years. These reports continued, particularly in the fields of heart disease, infections and cancer, contradicting the NIH conclusions. Either the clinical reports of the efficacy of high doses were incorrect, or the NIH experimental work was flawed.
Taking note of this inconsistency, Drs Steve Hickey and Hilary Roberts decided to investigate the data for a book ("Ascorbate, the science of vitamin C", www.lulu.com/ascorbate). They began by looking at the apparently ludicrous claims for the medical effects of vitamin C. Pauling had stated that the substance could cure cancer and that shortage was the major cause of heart disease. Among his many scientific advances, Pauling had made occasional errors: perhaps he had done the same with vitamin C. If he was wrong, his hypotheses should be easy to refute.
When they examined the evidence, Hickey and Roberts found background evidence for Pauling's ideas from independent scientific and medical reports, covering half a century. The findings in these papers could neither be dismissed as placebo effects nor easily explained. The reports included remission of AIDS, cures for cancer, and the immediate recovery of children at the point of death from septic shock. The claims seemed so out of the ordinary that they were hard to believe. However, Hickey and Roberts could find no counter examples in the scientific or medical literature.
If these positive reports were indeed wrong, no-one had shown this to be true. The scientific evidence was consistent with Pauling's ideas, with a few notable exceptions. The primary exception was the NIH data on blood and tissue saturation. The medical establishment accepted the NIH conclusions and held them in the highest regard. The US Institute of Medicine had based their official recommended dietary allowance (RDA) on these results. If the NIH was correct, then Pauling was wrong and the positive reports of high doses must be invalid.
The NIH conclusions were not correct, however. Hickey and Roberts examined their experiments and found them to be full of errors. For example, the researchers had given a dose of vitamin C, waited until it had been excreted and then measured blood levels. Using this procedure, they found that increasing the dose did not greatly increase the blood levels. Instead of realising that this was because the dose had been excreted, the NIH claimed it was because the body was saturated, so higher doses were redundant. They then used white blood cells as a model for normal cells, to see how they absorbed vitamin C from their surroundings. These white blood cells are specialised to absorb vitamin C, even when supplies are low. If other body cells were similar to white blood cells, we would normally have a reserve of 40 grams in our bodies. In this case, given the proposed RDA of 200mg, it would take 2-3 years to fill a depleted body. This is demonstrably incorrect: the classic example is that James Lind's sailors recovered from scurvy in a matter of days when they were given citrus fruits containing small amounts of vitamin C.
These mistakes were gross and unsupportable. In order to check their re-interpretation of the data, Hickey sent emails to the NIH, the Institute of Medicine and every scientist he could contact who was associated with the RDA, asking them to provide a reasonable scientific response to these errors. No-one was able to provide such a response. Since it is normal scientific practice to explain and defend your ideas, the hypothesis that people only need small amounts of vitamin C looks increasingly shaky.
Even the NIH's subsequent data contradicts their earlier work. The NIH vitamin C group published a series of papers on vitamin C and cancer [Ann Intern Med, 140(7), 533-7.]. In these papers, they suggested that repeated doses of oral vitamin C would produce blood levels of at least 220 microM (a measure of the concentration) , which is three times greater than the 70 microM maximum "saturated" value they claimed in their RDA papers. While their own papers clearly showed that their low-dose claims were wrong, the NIH appeared not to notice. Instead, they suggested that intravenous doses could produce higher blood levels, which might be effective against cancer. Even though their data were coming closer to Pauling's findings on the use of vitamin C in cancer, the NIH took the opportunity to mount another attack on Linus Pauling, suggesting he did not know the difference between oral and intravenous (IV) vitamin C.
Pauling had performed a series of trials with Dr Ewan Cameron, a Scottish cancer specialist, showing that intravenous vitamin C allowed cancer patients to live much longer than expected. Numerous other studies confirmed this effect, particularly the work of Dr Abram Hoffer and Dr Hugh Riordan. The Mayo Clinic tried to refute this research but failed, as they used low, oral doses, making their results invalid. In their own cancer paper, the NIH researchers claimed that Pauling and Cameron's use of the IV route was "serendipitous", implying that Pauling did not know the difference between injected and oral doses. In fact, Pauling had written explicitly about this difference, so the NIH criticism was misplaced.
A new scientific theory, called the dynamic flow model, explains all the observed responses to vitamin C in the literature. This model is described in the book "Ascorbate", mentioned above. According to the model, people should ideally be in a state of dynamic flow, which means they should ingest more vitamin C than they need, in the form of divided dose supplements. The extra ascorbate flows through the body and is excreted in the urine. It is not wasted, however, as the excess acts as a reservoir when extra vitamin C is required. Dynamic flow is the closest we humans can get to restoring our physiology to how it was before we lost the ability to make vitamin C in our bodies, as most other animals still do.
It is difficult to imagine what Linus Pauling would have made of all this had he lived. Hickey and Roberts like to think that he would have pointed out the NIH errors earlier. He might have had fun explaining that the NIH could not perform a simple experiment, yet tried to blame him for the deficiencies in the Mayo Clinic's research. It is now 10 years since Pauling's death. Biologist René Dubos suggested that the mainstream converges with Pauling twenty years later. If so, we only have another decade to wait until the medical establishment can admit that Pauling was right all along.
Dr. Hilary Roberts
Email: radicalascorbate@yahoo.com
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vitamin C
posted by timothyfranksarris on 17 Feb 2012 at 7:52 amevolution didn't allow the body to make it's own vit c.because God made citrus fruits to obtain our vit c medical scientists have just discovered that heart disease;cancer; colds@other other illnesses are linked to inflamation vit cis an acid and acid will cure most inflamation problems by either increasing immunity response or directly by attacking inflamation itself so it makes alot of sense to my medical knowledge
Had quad CAB 14 years ago
posted by mike travis on 6 Feb 2012 at 4:19 pmHad quad CAB 14 years ago. Excellent job. Cost 14 grand. Now may be blocking up again a little. 3 months ago started taking 4 grams vit C, 4 grams lysine and 500mg of proline daily. No problems now. Wish I had read Linus paulings notes years ago. I also still take the doctors treatment as prescribed. May increase vit C to 5 grams and lysine to 5 grams as well. Godsend. Regards Mike.
Lifetime value of viatmin c
posted by linda Bong on 2 Dec 2011 at 8:55 amAs a child I ate copious amounts of oranges and lemons, and especially loved the white part of the fruit where the bioflavonoids are. I rarely was sick and to this day I may get one cold or influenza a year if that and I am 60 years old. I worked for years with disabled and mentaly challenged children without catching colds or influennzas. I take no medications today and excellent health. I am very athletic and I run every day in the hills near my home in Hawaii and swim year-round in Hawaii where I live.I continue to inject viatmin c both in foods and orally. I would imagine that with what we know today about the tatics of the pharmaceudical indsry and their lobbisits that they had a hand in blocking the facts or getting them publically refuted for so long.
V-C Works!
posted by Karen Williams on 4 Nov 2011 at 9:36 amHi -
After reading some of the above, felt I had to add my testimony. I am a 69 y/o grandmother, mother of two. I work a full time job. Up at 4 am every morning and don't stop until about 6-7 pm. I take a number of vitamins and supplements, among them - super greens and LOTS of V-C. I have never had the flu, and have not had a cold in YEARS! As I have a very full schedule (weekly) - I know taking care of the body - WORKS!! Thank God for this wonderful knowledge. And, yes, I agree - the medical field is overloaded with "money-grabbing" people. Which includes the drug industry. (I am NOT on any prescription meds either).
Thank you for allowing me to share!
Intravenous C
posted by Mr Ramesh Patel on 19 Oct 2011 at 4:18 amIntravenous C is a cheap drug. (as mentioned above, drug companies are not interested because it cannot be patented and therefore does not generate high profits). It would not be difficult to get quite a lot of volunteers for a good randomised trial. In fact, some such trials have been attempted.
It is interesting that even 7 years after the article above, there is still no evidence other than a few anecdotes showing that high dose vitamin C works. And some of the anecdotes are easily explainable by placebo effect, contrary to what some have said. Lack of evidence of effect is not the same as evidence of lack of effect, so I will remain hopeful that a good trial will someday appear showing that it works, but I won't be holding my breath.
Vitamin C again
posted by Roma on 26 Mar 2011 at 6:17 pmWhen Dr. Pauling's book first came out I was experiencing strep throat episodes that took me to the emergency room. I started taking massive doses as Dr. Pauling suggested and never experienced that problem again. More recently I was found to be deficient in Vitamin D and was advised to also take calcium. My intake of Vitamin C decreased over time and arthritis in my leg became painful. I am just getting over a very bad cold and turned again to Vitamin C only to find that my arthritis pain has gone and I can only contribute that to Vitamin C. I am totally back on my Vitamin C routine. Amazing results.
A better way
posted by Maria on 7 Mar 2011 at 2:18 amI watched my mother die of cancer and I knew there had to be another way. Right now, two of my friends have cancer. Each has gone through horrendous treatment, disfiguring surgery that will always be a legacy of their disease. I have tried to pass on alternative information to them, but each has succumbed to invasive chemotherapy plus hysterectomies, all so they can trial an alternative drug!
What I find difficult is that these 'specialists' must be reading as widely as we all are - or are they? Are they perhaps, simply puppets, pawns in the hands of money-hungry drug giants? It beggars belief!
Makes sense
posted by Capt V K Malhotra on 5 Mar 2011 at 2:21 amFor centuries in India a rejuvenating medicine has been used. It is based on the Indian gooseberry (Phyllanthus Emblica) and is called Chyawanprash. The gooseberry has more vitamin c than oranges, megadoses so to speak.Of course Mr Pauling is right. Drug companies are not interested in anything that cannot be patented.
Superb
posted by Allan N. Spreen, MD on 6 Feb 2011 at 6:50 amMagnificent article...shows NIH in the light in which they should be shown.
Kudos to Dr. Roberts,
ANSpreen,MD
Dr. Pauling...brilliant beyond his years!
posted by Dave on 4 Feb 2011 at 8:16 amI have been using Dr. Paulings findings on the use of vit C for over 30 years and it works. I think one of the most important aspects of his theory is the point of "dynamic flow" in the body, ie, the presence of a constant level of vit C. He had written an article years ago where he described in simplistic terms how his dynamic flow works.....Imagine filling a sink with water.
When you pull the plug, the sink empties. But if you fill the sink and you introduce water from the faucet at the same rate as water exits the drain, what happens to the water level in the sink? It simply stays at the same level. His theory was that if vit C can stay at a consistent level in the body throughout the day, then it will be more effective in stimulating the immune system. I agree and so far, it has worked beautifully for me.
Dave
Those that can: do! Those that can't: teach! Those that can't teach: teach teachers!
posted by Daniel J. G. Stumpf on 1 Jan 2011 at 6:23 pmIf only I had known that the issue of the efficacy of Vitamin C, with respect to the common cold and cancer, was fraught with such 'frenetic backstabbing', I would have been more circumspect in voicing my personal observations and endorsement of the substance, while studying Organic Chemistry, at the University of Toronto, ending 2004.
In retrospect, I now regret my remark that the U of T's study which, as I understand it, generated 'results' contrary to my own personal experience, was probably flawed through the presumed use of sodium ascorbate, the sodium salt and conjugate base of Vitamin C, instead of ascorbic acid itself: the difference being that for the "Vitamin C" dose to be actually available chemically, a person's digestive system must FIRST be acidic enough in terms of both pH AND quantity of acidic species present, to re-protonate the sodium ascorbate and COMPLETELY convert it to the biologically active Vitamin C molecule. In other words: "Chewable Vitamin C" can turn out to be nothing more than glorified salt pills; one could eat a plate-full and yet have next to no additional Vitamin C in one's system. Similarly, use of anti-acids interferes with re-protonation.
Until now, I had assumed that my branch of science attracted Army-Type 'Government Suits' in search of those suspected of possessing unauthorized political opinions; who would then arrange for research grants to be awarded to those who arbitrarity assign grades accordingly. Now I am not so sure.
tried it! for me it works
posted by James on 21 Dec 2010 at 5:01 amI lived in Costa Rica for a number of years and one year while living there went through a period where there were four different flu virus and a huge number of people had fallen sick. All 12 of my staff were violently ill with one or more of the flu’s, as was my entire family, who all became sick at the same time. I was consuming large amounts of vitamin C some in pill form, but mostly using fresh orange juice, almost a gallon a day (we had some orange trees in the backyard).
Weeks went by with more and more people becoming ill, work in the country almost came to a halt. After the first week I noticed that even though I was exposed to the different flu viruses by directly taking care of my family members (I had to clean up after them) I had not gotten sick, I increased the dosage to be safe. Weeks went by, then a month; many people just recovering were hit by a second and third wave of the flu. After two months things returned to normal, and even though I was exposed to all the flu strains going around I never got sick, never felt ill.
To this day I never take flu shots, but take large amounts of C when those around me become ill with colds or flu’s. As a kid growing up without taking the vitamin C I had my share of colds and flu’s but not anymore. At times I have not taken the C a little late after the onset of exposure to the flu, and would start to get the early signs achy feeling and sneezing , and would drink a few bottles of O.J. and a few C pills, 6 hours later the flu like feelings were gone.
Other people I know have tried large doses of C but haven’t gotten the same results, so all I know is that it works for me. I never had a flu shot in my life or for that matter any of the standard immunizations given to youth or adults, maybe that makes a difference.
Stay healthy
Great comment Sue!!^^^
posted by mildred on 7 Nov 2010 at 8:35 pmI whole heartedly agree, with you and your Dad =)
Arrogance is just stupidity with another name
posted by Sue on 6 Oct 2010 at 10:46 amMy Dad was a pretty smart guy... genius IQ, patent holder of some pretty sophisticated aircraft instrumentation. He taught me two things as a chid that, I think, everyone could live their life by...
1: There are two kinds of smart people... those who know everything and can't possibly learn anything new... and those who remember how they got smart, and realize that there is always more to learn and that new information should always be considered and can change previous conclusions.
...He made me promise to always be in the second group.
2: You can't know everything, but anything you don't know you can teach yourself. Books are a good place to start.
My Dad was completely self educated as he only went as far as trade school after high school. He designed and contracted two homes we lived in, built a double hulled sailboat from scratch and invented the first anti-aircraft collision device ever patented (among other things).
I am CONSTANTLY amazed at the arrogance of (supposedly) smart people who seem to think they already know everything and have closed their mind to new information. They then compound that stupidity, by continuing to insist they are right in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
Just goes to show you that education, intellect, stupidity and (perhaps) mental illness, can all live in the same person.
Vitamin
posted by Deb on 9 Oct 2004 at 2:07 amI've been taking high doses of Vitamin C for 20 years now.....I do believe in the benefits.
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